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Su Dai苏代

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Younger brother of Su Qin.

DIRECT FIGURES
21
RELATION RECORDS
28
SOURCE WORKS
3

RELATIONSHIP COMPASS

Su Dai, and the people around them.

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01
KINSHIP

Kinship

Blood, marriage and sworn bonds

2 figures · 3 records
02
ALLEGIANCE

Allegiance

Rulers, appointments and allegiance

10 figures · 10 records
6 more in the complete record
03
CONFLICT

Conflict

Battles, captures and defeat

6 figures · 6 records
3 more in the complete record
04
THE UNSEEN

Mythic acts

Transformation, aid and divine punishment

8 figures · 9 records
5 more in the complete record

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In history · Records of the Grand Historian

He lobbied for Zhou to the King of Chu and the Prime Minister of Han. As a strategist, he advised the King of Qi to renounce the title of emperor. Younger brother of Su Qin.

In fiction · Chronicles of the Eastern Zhou Kingdoms · Strategies of the Warring States

Younger brother of Su Qin. Younger brother of Su Qin, who envied his brother's wealth and prominence, and studied persuasion. Younger brother of Su Qin, who befriended Zi Zhi and later served Yan.

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  1. 8 profile notes
    7 relations8 verified quotations
    • Su QinbrothersSu Dai
    • Su DailobbyKing Zhaoxiang of Qin
    • Lord MengchangobeySu Dai
    • Su Daioffer strategyKing Min of Qi
    Verified original text · 8
    1. 秦弟代厉羡其兄之贵盛

      brothers · Chronicles of the Eastern Zhou Kingdoms, ch. 90

    2. 乃西见秦王曰

      lobby · Chronicles of the Eastern Zhou Kingdoms, ch. 94

    6 more verified quotations in the relationship records below.

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  2. 11 profile notes
    13 relations12 verified quotations
    • Su DailobbyKing of Qin
    • Su DaipersuadeKing Wei
    • Su QinbrothersSu Dai
    • Su DailobbyKing Zhaoxiang of Qin
    Verified original text · 12
    1. 因说秦王曰

      lobby · Records of the Grand Historian, 樗里子甘茂列传

    2. 苏代谓魏王

      persuade · Records of the Grand Historian, 魏世家

    10 more verified quotations in the relationship records below.

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  3. 12 profile notes
    14 relations14 verified quotations
    • Su DailobbyKing of Qin
    • Su DailobbyKing of Chu
    • Su DaipersuadeKing Wei
    • Su DaibrothersSu Qin
    Verified original text · 14
    1. 乃西说秦王曰

      lobby · Strategies of the Warring States, 秦/二

    2. 不若听而备于其反也

      lobby · Strategies of the Warring States, 韩/一

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History vs. fiction

Su Dai's sworn brotherhood to secure Yan

  • The Records of the Grand Historian, Chapter 4, mainly records his persuasive speech: "Su Dai spoke for Zhou to the King of Chu, saying: 'Why is it that Zhou's alliance with Qin brings disaster?'" However, in Chronicles of the Eastern Zhou Kingdoms, Chapter 91, to highlight the strategists' penetration into the internal politics of the states, it adds the plot of marriage and alliance: "He also had his younger brothers Su Dai and Su Li become sworn brothers with Zi Zhi, intending to strengthen themselves."

Relationship network

22 figures · 99 links
Su DaiSu DaiKing of QinKing of QinKing of ChuKing of ChuKing WeiKing WeiSu QinSu QinKing Zhaoxiang of QinKing Zhaoxiang of QinLord MengchangLord MengchangGan MaoGan MaoKing Min of QiKing Min of QiKing of QiKing of QiFan SuiFan SuiGongzhongXue GongMarquis of RangKing Zhao of YanWei RanZi ZhiKing Zhao of ChuKing HuiKing Min of QiXiang ShouChunyu Kun
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Sources: Chronicles of the Eastern Zhou Kingdoms, ch. 90; Records of the Grand Historian, Annals of Zhou; Strategies of the Warring States, 战国策校经序; Chronicles of the Eastern Zhou Kingdoms, ch. 91; Records of the Grand Historian, 孟尝君列传; Strategies of the Warring States, 燕/一; Chronicles of the Eastern Zhou Kingdoms, ch. 93; Records of the Grand Historian, 樗里子甘茂列传

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